Friend never showed, but now ive got a good amount of kava for tommarrow night. Didnt relize how strong this stuff really was. id rate it a 9.8 seriously, although it has stone in it, 1/2 of stone to about 7 cups of water wouldent do this much i know that for a fact. Im going to get 100% Hawaiian for christmas from pacific, then going for some kavabyrex varietys, including the old van3. Again thank you douglas for making these insights and information to kava, without you I wouldent be here, relax and krunked, today. Truely props man, I appreciate it..