I totally understand. I've been programming for ... lets just say a while ... and I'm going to need help posting pictures of my Kava Plants. I'm clueless. I think I'm going to start by getting a SD card reader so I can use the good camera. I tell ya what, you have done a super job of learning. I think this forum is as good or better than any I have seen from a technical perspective. And of course the Vibe here is what makes it stand out head and shoulders above the others. When I think of doing massive updates, I think of this: "Be afraid, be very afraid...."